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The Quest For 4GHz: My Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban Overclock Adventure

Sunday, May 9th, 2010

My old chip was a Q6600. Why was I upgrading at all you may ask? Well, my Q6600 could only hit about 3.2GHz, I wanted some more power plus the extra cores is a nice touch. Generally speaking, the Phenom II X6 is close to the performance clock for clock of my old Q6600. I also snagged a deal on frys.com where the processor + motherboard was only $260. I combo’d that with $80 DDR3 Corsair XMS3 ram (after rebate) from tigerdirect, and picked up a H50 cooler at retail price from newegg. ($80) I also intend to sell my old parts on eBay in the near future to help recoup some cost.

specs:

GA-890GPA-UD3H

4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333

Corsair HX520w PSU (If you don’t think this is enough.. I’ve done the calculations and even with the processor at 4GHz at max I’ll hit 480w or so, with everything fully loaded, 100%. Corsair PSU’s are slightly under rated, and will deliver 520W continuously without issue. I don’t intend to keep my CPU at 4GHz though so there really is no issue, or “pushing” the limits.)

1055T (stepping: CCBBE CB 1015BPMW)

ATi Radeon HD5850

Corsair H50

1x 320GB 72k drive

1x 500GB 72k drive

1X 1TB 72k drive

Overall, pretty cheap upgrade. Let’s start off by saying this was not exactly an “easy” venture. I thought it would be, but it in no way ended up that way. Starting from the beginning, I had to remove my old LGA775 motherboard with a Q6600.

That was pretty simple. Mounting the H50 was also pretty simple. The rest of the process was also simple, and what I’d expect.



So I power up the system, install windows, boot into windows, and all of a sudden… BAM my pc won’t start up. I keep pressing the button like an idiot and smell something burning. My worst fear was that the power supply was dead. I proceeded to disassemble my entire build, that I just put together. I took the power supply to a nearby computer to test if it worked. It worked without issue. So what’s the problem? I have to take out all my components to find out what is causing the problem. I take out the H50 radiator and fan and put it on top of my case.

I power on the system like this, and guess what? The H50 fan starts smoking and making sounds like it’s burning up! Immediately I power off the PC and take out the fan. I replace these fans with my antec fans I’ve had for quite some time. My antec 900 came with a bunch of them. No problems.

This whole process took awhile to sort out and set me back time wise substantially. Anyway, with this sorted out I went to begin overclocking my computer. I hit a wall at around 3.75 GHz, northbridge needed some more juice.

Then my ram timings/speed were getting messed up even with the highest divider. My motherboard is sensitive to the timings on ram for some reason, so I couldn’t boot with certain timings. Not cool. After struggling with the ram timings, speed, northbridge frequency etc, I was finally able to start booting at above 3.75GHz, and eventually was able to hit 4GHz. To make it stable, I had to run a lot of prime95 and ram tests. Prime stability came in at 1.5V. Worth all the hassle? Maybe not since I don’t think I’ll be running my CPU at 1.5V. I can get 3.8ish at around 1.38V. Extra 200Mhz for .12v doesn’t seem worth it. Of course, I just had to push it to 4GHz because it’s “magical” or something :)

3DMark06 run: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13861077

Well, that’s that. I’m just adding some finishing tweaks to my setup and figuring out what the “best” overclock would be for performance,  energy consumption, and heat. Probably about 3.8GHz, 4GHz turbo, with C&Q enabled.

This processor is noticeably faster than the Q6600, so I’m happy with my upgrade.

UPDATE: I settled on 3.5GHz @ 1.28V. Should be close to stock watts, at 4GHz it’s a 93% increase.. 93% increase for 500MHz isn’t what I’d call a good deal considering the cost of electricity here. I leave my PC on 24/7 so I don’t want to burn up too much. Haven’t figured out turbo yet, doesn’t seem to work correctly. Only bumps voltage to 1.32v which isn’t enough to do much with. Of course, I have saved the 4Ghz profile in my motherboard in case I need it for something :)

Again, my Q6600 ate close to 200w at 3.2GHz so I never ran it there much. I try to keep my overclocks a little energy efficient.

The difference between a home built PC and a pre-built PC

Friday, December 12th, 2008

bigwater2I tell most people who want to buy a PC to build it themselves. Of course, I often forget that these people aren’t equipped with the knowledge I have. There is still hope, however. Building a PC is really quite easy, and could be learned in no time. If these people really want to have a solid PC they must consider buying parts and putting it together themselves.

Prebuilt PCs have these issues:

  • No choice of OS, it’s already installed (and included in the price)
  • Hardware is cheap wherever possible, this includes the power supply, the cooling system, and the motherboard.
  • Upgrades are difficult, most of the time they must be done through the manufacturer, power supplies are weak, so upgrading any one component might cause an instability.
  • Generally, there are not many options for tweaking in the Bios.
  • The cases are cheap, they provide very bad cooling.

Now a homebuilt PC has no issues, so long as the right components are purchased.

  • Choice of OS whether this be Linux, Windows, or Hackintosh
  • Complete control of what goes into the PC.
  • Upgrades are easy, almost anything on Newegg will work on your PC, so  long as it’s supported by your motherboard (which you picked out yourself)
  • Many tweaks are located in the Bios, so long as you selected a decent motherboard.
  • Assembling your own PC may actually be cheaper than the pre-built PCs.
  • Home built PCs are generally more stable.
  • You can use some older components on newer builds.
  • Fixing hardware related problems is much easier.

My first PC, which I built when I was about 11 years old, had a lot of crap components and was very similar to a pre-built PC. It took me awhile to find the quality components I really wanted.

This is where computer enthusiast forums come in handy. If you visit extremeoverclocking.com or XtremeSystems.org they will be happy to help you select the right components. There are stickies noting the better hardware out there. I could also help you with a build if you want, just post in the forums.

I had many issues with powersupplies failing on me until I spent the money for a Corsair 520HX, and I haven’t had an issue since. My PC is rock solid even overclocked, I have no problems leaving it on for days, and it still be completely responsive. Prime95 is also a great test to see if your PC is running stable, my guess is that most pre-built PCs would really struggle with that kind of program.

Using websites like Slickdeals.net or similar is also a great way to save money on your build, you just have to watch for deals on good components. If I would have bought everything from my build directly from Newegg.com I would have spent $200 more than I did being thrifty on my last build. I say it’s completely worth it, but it’s up to you to see if you want to put the time into it.

Intel Core i7

Tuesday, December 9th, 2008

intel_core_i7New chips are out, but it doesn’t seem like pc enthusiasts are paying much attention, including me. Why? Well, prices are too high right now. Also, I just built this PC what, about a half year ago, I don’t think I’m ready for an upgrade quite yet. Most people are sticking with their Core 2 Duos or Core 2 Quads, since with those overclocked, there’s not much of a difference between the i7 at stock. Of course, the i7 should be able to overclock further, but who needs that kind of speed right now anyway. Last time I checked, my Q6600@3.2GHz was not having any trouble with current games. I rarely even see my processor go more than 50% use, except when I’m encoding video, where it goes to 80%. Booting up windows etc only puts my processor at about 5-10% use. I see no reason, wouldn’t even use the power. That’s why I don’t think there’s a big fuss over the Core i7′s in comparison to all the fuss made over the Conroe architecture when that came out. GPU’s are behind processors nowadays so no one sees a need.

Of course, these CPU’s will become more prevalent in the coming months, until they’re more mainstream. In a year or more I will most likely have one of these processors, either that or another new processor that came out in between. I go where the performance is, maybe AMD will have something for me. Last time I had them was with the Opteron 165. This brings back memories, because I actually ruined my first Opteron 165 :) I still have it sitting at my desk at all times, to remind me not to be fruitless with my technology.

Curious about my computer specifications?

Friday, December 5th, 2008
Back when the PC was in assembly

Back when the PC was in assembly

Well, I’ll end your curiousity. Under the hood I have:

  • Q6600 Processor overclocked to 3.2GHz
  • Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler
  • 2X1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 (I do NOT recommend this memory go with G. Skill or similar.)
  • 250GB Western Digital SATA Hard Drive
  • 320GB Seagate SATA Hard Drive
  • Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard
  • Antec 900 Computer case
  • Corsair 520WHX Power Supply
  • HD 4850 Video Card
  • 19″ Viewsonic 5ms LCD
  • 22″ V7 D22W12 5ms LCD
  • Klipsch Promedia 2.1 Speakers
  • DVD-RW Drive (Paid $200 for it a long time ago, it needs to be upgraded, to a $20 drive.. Yea, it’s that old.
  • Wolfclaw gaming keyboard. (I have a regular keyboard I use as well. )
  • Diamondback Razer gaming mouse.
  • Thunder 8 Gaming mouse pad

That is all I can think of, everything in and relating to my computer should be listed. I hope you enjoy, because most of those components are high quality, and any one of those would be great to include in a build for yourself or others. Check prices and new hardware frequently at places such as extremeoverclocking.com or xtremesystems.org .